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(This question was asked at a public trance demonstration at the Sanctuary of Healing in Lancashire - December 2009)
Deborah Slater: Joseph, I don’t really know how to word this - is anything pre-destined in our lifetime, do we have a soul knowing where it wants to get to before it leaves or is everything just created moment by moment?
Joseph: First of all you have to choose to come back. That is a revolutionary thing to say - many cultures, religions say that you have to come back. You don’t. You choose to come back for one of two reasons: either because you want to teach and bring through light to the other souls on the Earth plane who are still in the darkness of the mind or because you want to come back because there is something about this life that pulls you back into it. It might be a yoghurt! It might be a love affair that you feel has not been concluded successfully. It might be what you consider to be a missed opportunity - ‘I was almost at that level of promotion and I had a heart attack. I can go back, I can do it again’ and we say: ‘Please don’t!’ We say ‘hello’ and we knock and we try to get in and we say: ‘Please don’t, it is so much better here. You have extricated yourself from the Earth plane, you have extricated yourself from the ‘experiment’ that went wrong and is still wrong, now don’t please go back.’
You see it depends on the dominant vibrations of a soul after that soul has passed over. If the Earth plane is such a major player in the vibrations of the soul then that is practically all that soul sees and wants when it crosses over to the primary levels of spirit evolution.
‘I want to go back.’
‘But it is beautiful here!’
‘I want to go back.’
And so if all else fails - if all counselling and guidance fails - then that person is sent into ‘stasis’, is taken apart from the spiritual realms and apart from the Earth realm and has to wait until the Lords of Karma (those spirits who are entrusted with the great ‘computer’ of life) decide where best to place that soul so that the experiences that come to that soul through a myriad of interconnecting vibrations, the opportunities that come to that soul, will give that soul the best chance of this time round saying: ‘This isn’t for me really’ so that when they get back they can say: ‘I have learnt enough, I want to move on.’
So, there are certain key points built into the energy matrix that surrounds and guides the soul through its life on Earth - not every instance, not every circumstance but key ones and that soul will meet those key experiences (unless something goes seriously, seriously wrong with the intended life plan for it). How often, for example, have you had an experience that went terribly wrong and you distanced yourself from it and said: ‘Thank goodness that is over with’ only for that exact same experience in another guise to open up for you further down the path of your life because you have to meet certain challenges. Those challenges are programmed into your life’s journey and you can hide behind the tree and you can dig a hole and you can encase yourself in lead …but you will still meet those key challenges.
There are certain circumstances - very rare - but there are certain circumstances where souls are pulled off course by the pull of the Earth plane. Those circumstances present themselves to the soul but the soul is so immersed in the heaviness of the Earth plane that the soul within does not recognise those challenges and bulldozes through them or avoids them and then goes to them the next time and does something that is counter to their spiritual evolution time, after time, after time, after time. This is why you have guides; this is why you have the voice in your ear that says: ‘Perhaps that is the way to go, not that way.’ Unfortunately many of those voices are blotted out by the effects of the Earth plane, many of those voices are blotted out by the logical mind and you do not recognise the challenges as what they are.
So pre-destiny? An inevitable journey is perhaps a better term. An inevitable journey but the things that come to you in life come to you for a purpose and that purpose is to elevate you. If the only purpose of your life is, at the end of it, to say: ‘Well, I have had a good life; I now want to go somewhere different’ – Hallelujah! The Lords of Karma have succeeded in extricating one soul from this matrix of darkness. Does that answer your question?
Deborah: Yes, thank you.
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